Thanks for the response. I now have 3 different pairs on that Cheaney last. Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 Particularly I struggle with the heel which I find very wide with most English makers. If it is plastic, it means it cant adapt to your heel shape over time, improving the fit. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'footslide_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_13',107,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-3-0');Let us see what Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes look like at first glance: One of the most elegant shoes out there today is the Carmina shoes. See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. Is higher volume though. The former you appreciate in the shoes over time. I wear a US10/UK9 and opted for a UK9, on Pepe's recommendation, and the fit is spot on. Jesper's information was based on information by two Carmina retailers. or to put it another more childish way, you started it! Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. I typically shy away from the lighter browns etc.. and thought this might be a good alternative and could be quite versatile. The toe length isn't excessive either. Allen Edmonds 511G 9.5D: Slightly long and a bit too voluminous, was meant to be worn with dress socks, end up wearing it with boot socks to make it fit. Doc Martens or Loake 1880 for Chelsea boots ? I have Meermin boots and happy with the quality. Thats is some very useful information Jesper, thank you! One thing I could never understand is why, from lower to higher price points, RTW makers dont provide more width options. Rancourt 114 9D: Great fit sometimes. I wonder brands you may recommend for a person with a deeper broader foot like mine. Even so, I do believe that the Meermins are the best value-for-money among the shoes mentioned. For Truman P-79 9D: Good fit, was snug the first day with boot socks and now comfortable with boot socks. Make a mark at the front of your longest toe. She tried Orbans but they were stiff as hell. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. Unless there is also a considerable increase in quality, Id say this reposition leaves Church as even less of a value for money option. Fast worldwide deliveries; 14 day returns; . Shoe makes are easier than almost anything to compare in this respect, because you get something more at each level. The main difference is that cheaper brands use split suede, where the hides have been split into two layers (sometimes even three, but thats mainly used for even cheaper shoes), while more expensive brands use reverse calf suede (where you have the full hide, and the flesh side is sanded). Ive gradually moved more towards the Handgrade products, though not entirely, as the range of styles is more limited. Some of it is differences in leather and lined vs unlined, but a lot of it is lasting differences. The only running shoes for me. Theyre all Spanish except Septieme Largeur, which is French but made in Spain. Thanks Aidan. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Think Ill grab a pair of black calf Trickers first, then see how I go. I can fully close the balmoral lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. They have done a small amount of RTW for a while, its just enlarged recently. Viberg 2030D 9: The 9D is probably the best fit I have from Viberg, or tied with the 2040. 65 last 10D: Bad fit. Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. Being cheaper is an objective description of price. I wrote an article about it many years ago on the Swedish version of Shoegazing (before English was launched) which, to summarise, had the conclusion that its down to vanity. For the brands mentioned in this article, everyone uses split suedes, except Carmina and TLB Mallorca (C&J mainly have splits for Benchgrade, while they use reverse calf for Handgrade). Its a long time since Ive worn shoes at that price level, and I simply have no frame of reference. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. This is very useful, thank you. Most brands provide one width per shoe/last, which in the end really limits your ability to find the right fit (not to mention, to find the right fit for the shoe you actually want to buy). Fully bespoke shoes including trial pair start from about 550 depending on the exchange rate, and they offer ready to wear / MTO lines of various grades between 65 and 450. Simon, I really appreciate the articles lately with a focus on quality at a more approachable price point. Im really looking forward to the promised article on TLB Artista. I did have a little heel slip in the beginning that went away. You must log in or register to reply here. The dress shoes classics hold their own. Ill be reviewing them separately, as theyre more similar to other shoes weve covered. Viberg 2050 9: The E width of this last is still unreleased, but its what I would likely do for another pair in this last. Im not sure what you have to back up that this wouldnt be the case? Not sure the best place for this, and realise there is no correct answer but was wondering your view on the proportional cost of shoes to suits, shirts etc? 9US is too generous, * **Red Wing 8 last (iron ranger)** 8.5D a bit snug on the sides of the mid foot, might've gotten away with 8.5E, * **Rider Boot 42 last** 9D comfortable fit, but lowish instep at the top makes it hard to put them on without shoehorn, * **RM Williams Comfort Craftsman** 8G with a little heel slip, * **TLB Mallorca Alan** 8F UK generous without being overly roomy. My understanding is that AE is below the likes of Crocketts in terms of make, but thats based on the input of people like Jesper who know more about them than I do. Thanks Simon, great work as always. Comfortable out of the box and have continued to be excellent. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. Nice article , but why the article call these cheap shoes? White's 50/50 9D: This is now one of my best fitting lasts. I wonder how much more comfortable it would be. For me, thats the right balance: There are diminishing returns to the higher quality make you can get with more expensive manufacturers, and a lot of my enjoyment comes from having shoes that are fit for particular purposes e.g., sleeker oxfords to wear with suits and smarter trousers, chunkier brogue and split-toes for more casual outfits, rubber soles for wet weather, unlined loafers for the summer, etc. I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. Vass (via Ascot) here. Overall, Meermins are not as good as Carminas because the Meermin shoes seem to be poorly finished when they are compared to the Carminas. I wear the same size in rain shell as in xim unlined. Im thinking of trying something different and the George Cleverley Ready to Wear line has a whole cut I particularly like the look of. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, This is an example of what a good comment looks like. Are there other difference? It is a smidge shorter than 2030, but that's due to the lack of taper. A couple of corrections on your US list Simon. Really good customer service is important to me and is one of the things that keeps me going back. Not having a physical shop makes a small difference, as does not selling wholesale or using an agent, but that doesnt translate to a shoe thats twice the quality. Jack, I havent looked at Weston in quite a while Im afraid Jack, but from what I remember they are around that kind of level, yes. Based on reviews, Im hopeful. Thanks Robin. Id have to say that, based on my personal experience, the C&J shops are one of the great strengths of the company. Although Carmina shoes are more expensive than Meermin shoes, there is so much value that you can get when you make that extra investment to get them. Well Id imagine the aim is to make more money, given that some will know the Cleverley name and want to buy into it. About 4 or 5 years ago, I naively bought a pair of Loake Shoemakers and the quality was very poor. on that curve of diminishing returns. So far I remained unconvinced but then again I dont know any better. At C&Js benchgrade level, you can choose from black or chestnut calf (both with a leather sole), or brown suede with a rubber sole and youre limited to their 348 last. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Thursday Captain 9D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. In fact, it is the favourite last for the Albaladejo family. Not sure I'd feel the same today. Simon as always your articles are informative and an education. And that at the end of the day, I would be better off saving on a getting an additional major item a year of fine quality rather than getting a 30th shirt that I dont really need. The manager gave me a significant discount for resoling them but, even after three decades as a loyal customer, I would be reluctant to buy from them again. Carmina shoes are good shoes that firmly grip your feet for extra balance and stability. Its a shame that fees make the value proposition go down fellow shoe enthusiasts abroad. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. I guess what I am saying is that depending on where youre, the good value for under certain dollar amount list will really change for you. Seemed comfortable at first but the more I wore it, the more I realized it just doesn't work for me. Ive undergone a career change and offices in the US have become more and more lax about dress standards, even prior to 2020. Alden Plaza 9.5D: One of best fitting lasts, feels great. Very nice article. These insoles are advanced comfort systems that are meant to keep your feet comfy and cozy all day. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #CarminaBoots #ShellCordovanBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #MereminPlumMuseumCalf #Meerminbelts---ALL UB playlist-. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. On the other hand, Meermins wont last you as long as Carminas will. The Yanko felt very similar to the TLB if a bit softer overall (this makes sense as the founder of TLB used to be with Yanko). However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. I dont cover the other brands on this list normally either. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. The other thing about Carmina is they have increased prices and reduced quality in some areas in recent years. These shoes have seen some heavy use and have been worn at least twice as much as the previous pair. I would instead recommend taking this last TTS and just wearing thick socks as sometimes it can run small. They claim it will still last as long and that the defects are just cosmetic, but still, it may not be what you expect. First thing I noticed is that they write the shoe runs large and one should buy half a size smaller than usual. A nice watch is also showing something. I agree that they might be a touch conservative (although they do now have more stylised lasts compared to a few years back), and that youre less likely to get more interesting leathers like museum calf or patinated. Bought before I understood my size. Last shape feels similar to Parkhurst 10 and Viberg 9.5, except toe is slightly longer and more tapered, heel is snugger, and it's much roomier throughout the instep. The equivalent shoes are both online currently for 400 each. You have aimed at a balance of smart casual, RTW / MTM / bespoke really useful and affordable; you have catered for all. Barrie 9.5D: Bad fit. People need to understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time, especially when theyre taken care of properly. I've come to think of myself as a 10E. D. C. D. Medium. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. But there is also some variation in what you get. Also, I dont think youve ever written about painted patina on shoes . Best fitting Viberg last, comfortable from day one, even more than the newer 2030, but this has a little bit extra arch support and has some anatomical properties as well due to being a munson style. Its a standard Goodyear shoe, with no fuss. I happily pay the very reasonable cost for a brand providing a certain width, a good service, retaining the lasts that suits me and other added values. Would you stick to brands such as Alden, EG, (or else) for RTW ? to my eye, both look too large for you based on these pics. The $200 Meermins (while being good value for money) is nowhere near the equivalent of a pair of Carminas, and they would be quite far from the likes of G&G or EG. RON 9: Terrible fit. There is decent toe room in spite of how tapered the chisel last looks. CJ or Alden or even something slightly lower end like Lof & Tung that is made more tastefully) and higher end makers (e.g. I cant comment as to what anything is like higher up the scale but they are both the best looking and most comfortable shoes I own (more than my hiking boots or running shoes). Because every Carmina thread is comprised of "what size am I" questions. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? The insoles in the Carminas are really comfortable, balanced, and well-structured. Carmina shoes are made with classy Shell Cordovan Leather that is really elegant and unique. The shoe comes on Meermin's Ama last, which is of a classic and elegant shape. The question there is how long such value lasts, when the company grows or takes on new costs. Then last but not least, my longwing pair (not available anymore I'm afraid). Do you think that this pair are too smart: https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, Would this pair be better suited: https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113. Common Projects Achilles and Bball: 43 are some of my best fitting shoes, especially the Bballs that have a little more toe room. Thanks for the personal comment it is very helpful and interesting, Any thoughts about the German brand Hammerstein? Allen Edmonds 65: 10.5D - Okay fit. Vass, TLB Artista, even Meccariello. Thats a point worth emphasising. Of course second pairs usually come out better, and know there can be customers nagging on very small things, but certainly doesnt sound like it in your case. The Jermyn Street stores are run by a franchisee. Really appreciate the advice. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. Ive never heard of it or tried it, and probably wouldnt in the future as I say at the top of this most, this isnt my area of expertise really. Of reference understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time especially! 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