I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. Look at your furnace's btu rating. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. The newer model 1000XL is still$59.00. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. 107 people named Bill Burkett found in Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Jacksonville and 17 other cities. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! Most of these testimonials are not of much use. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). As a local family owned company that has been in business for over 30 years, we continue to value the trust you have placed with us to provide your families and homes with professional, reliable and affordable Heating, Cooling & Indoor Air Quality solutions. In some situations yes but in some no. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. The only way it would have is if I used it exactly like the Eden Pure is supposed to be used. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. But this time, not only do they have Bob Vila promoting the device, they've added Al from Home Improvement! Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. While almost 100% of the electricity is transformed to heat, it is one of the most expensive ways to produce heat. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. KALAMAZOO/PORTAGE heating & air conditioning/hvac. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. You do the math. Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) I borrowed one of these heaters from my Mom and it heated the whole back half of my house. Hogwash. Yes if i needed a safe heater and had the right place for them. Just don't turn on your heat. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. A btu is a btu is a btu. The point has been made of how some feel about it. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. My personal choice - an oil-filled radiator, with the price tag of around $40 to $60. The peddlers of these overpriced 1500-watt heaters such as Edenpure and the highly-advertised "Amish" heaters are ripping off many gullible folks who are seeking ways to save on energy costs. FACT: Nonsense. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. William Burkett, William Lee Burkett, William L Burkett and William B Burkett are some of the alias or nicknames that Bill has used. I guess two guys with a beard is supposed to lend your overpriced heater more credibility. the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. It is now the 12th of Jan. and no heater. They don't claim it will save you money. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. Solve this simple math problem and enter the result. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. Well, I was under the impression that maybe EdenPure discovered a way to make heat from electricity in a more efficient way than your basic $40 electric space heater. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. What else can I do? I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! I realized that this was the start of giving me the run around. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. This sure seems to be a scam. FACT: Of course it will. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. So why pay a few hundred dollar for a space heater when you can pick one up at your local big box store for $30? Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. Common sense. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. Zero marketing at that point. 2 Guys with a beard does not equal credibility. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. I live on a mountain in Colorado. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. This is the second blog I have complained on. After a high-risk surgery, Eric uses his tenacity and faith to relearn how to do everything. Love my EdenPURE heater! It's not the space heater itself that saves you money, it's the fact you aren't heating the rest of the space in your home. Caveat emptor. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. If 1500W goes in, 5118 BTU comes out. . I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! A big amen to all you have posted. Felt bad for the guy. perputhen live stream / joshua andrews obituary. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! It is an older model. The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. Hmmm, think about it. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. We. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). I have purchased Eden pure heaters 1 is 2 years old and the fan motor is shot and one of the tubes is burned out. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. That splendid metal, so the story goes, has been incorporated into the design of Eden Pure heaters. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Its safer than most to. It is great for days like today when the chill was just too much in the house, but it is not something you want to use consistently during the day and night. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. No complaints at all. I criticize the device for a few reasons: But Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure says it best: Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! You cannot get more energy out of an electron than is in it. No repairs either. Look at fuel price comparisons, you'll see that electric heat is by far the most expensive. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. You save $ using a portable heater because you can heat just the space you're in at the time. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. the unfortunate part is, that double-wide homes MANY TIMES (not always) have poor ductwork systems (leaky or poor quality ductwork) or inexpensive heat pump systems. Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. Design in an electric heater is everything. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. I promise you the payback on this will be much better than an expensive space heater. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. Unh uh !! The clue is in the word personal . We bought edenpure in September. June 11, 2022 Posted by: when was arthur miller born No Comments. You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! With D.B. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. You have to have a control then you have to know all of the temperatures outside, the amount of insulation, the temps in the house, the furnace size and type (gas , electric, propane) how 'tight' the house is and several other factors. So, for this is is great. Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. I don't believe people can stay comfortable in their homes with just a space heater, so I don't believe they'll reduce your heating bills in half. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! cold in massachusetts on January 12, 2011: where can you run a 1500 watt heater all night for $0.23? Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! Minneapolis/St. Your heating in the northern regions will typically average somewhere around $500/month. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? Bill Burkett is 70 years old and was born on 09/11/1951. The patently false claim of the alleged benefits of "cured copper" has been widely discussed and deservedly ridiculed in blogs and forums. Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. etc,. Unplugged edenpure. So, that is where your decision lies if the small and inexpensive heater does not cost any more to use and will heat the same square footageDo you feel safe with the cheap one? These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. The heater is a point source of heat. 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. And it is VERY safe. Until recently, Eden Pure ads claimed their technology was based on the serendipitous finding by some farmer named "John Jones." He is just whoring for the Edenpure company (or whatever their corporate identification is). Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. And stop blaming others if you buy the wrong product because you did't do your homework. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. That's right. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. Turned on in December. Thanks for the good info that saved me. that I happen to agree with. ductwork loses a lot of energy if it is in unheated areas (your attic, your basement, etc.) Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. Buyer beware. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. This year, 2010, we noticed that the unit was not at all effective. The cost was going to be $10,000. Debra Breckenridge on September 20, 2011: I bought an Eden hearter last Dec. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. E.g. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. PERIOD. Her hair dryer moves much more air because of its use it moves hot air faster that doesnt mean its producing less heat over all. Why oil-filled? Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. less per month power bill. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. Suarez Manufacturing Industries / Pinnacle Systems, did no component life testing at all during the Edenpure US-1000 / Gen4 product development. Its a different volume of air being heated for different applications. Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. First of all, because it is silent. Emmy Award-winning American news personality Ken Rosato Ken is best known for his work in WABC-TV's morning newscasts. Any electric heater is 100% efficient. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. is too low you end up, cutting in a supply grill to bring the temp. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Bob Vila has ruined his credibility with me by endorsing the Edenpure Gen 4,The Gen 3 was satisfactory, the gen 4 is junk. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. You'll love it. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. bill burkett heaters. It's clear that you have not only taken the bait, but swallowed the hook. New Human Resources jobs added daily. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. My only issue is that the second year it started turning off all the time for no reason and now it's just sitting in my spare room doing nothing. Would i recommend them? I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. The importance of this is any space heater will do that. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. I will not call this a scam. I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. My electric bill actually increased. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. Buyer beware ! It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 27, 2011: Let us know how the EdenPURE works for you, the man. Inventors: Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) Even a child knows that hot air rises. Television ads do not tell you shipping is charged if you have problems and need to send them back. Trust me. The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. Perhaps another heater would work as well, but this one works real well. Why do you think they would do that? The film, directed and produced by Canton, Ohio native Doug Dearth and starring Logan Huffman, is the classic David-and-Goliath story centered around a small-town football team. http://pelletheat.org/pellets/compare-fuel-costs/. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. Nice flat spot for debris. I plugged it in this spring to take the chill out. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about The heater might be graet but at this time I don't want to take that chance just incase it is not what BOB VILA claims to be ture. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. It does nor really matter what type of heat source is used: gas, electric, oil, wood, solar, wind etc. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. Let me easily explain. 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